February 2, 2021 Tuesday Evening, Dharma Path III Class
Post-Intervention Sharing and Q&A; Brief Guided Meditation Bringing Light to Beings in Dark Cave
Barbara: I’d like to give people a chance to share anything specific that they’re left over with now, let’s see, 4 days after the workshop has ended, anything that anybody wants to share, and then Aaron is going to talk and lead a guided meditation. And then we’ll have some more chance for discussion.
Q:If after the review the entities decide that you need more work, how do you know? And what protocol should you follow then?
Barbara: They will tell you. You have to meditate and ask and they will tell you. Part of what we’re going to talk about tonight is hearing our guidance. Using our intuition. You have to ask. So, meditate for 10 or 15 minutes until you’re in a quiet place and then ask, “Is there anything I need? Either: I was or was not at the workshop. I am experiencing this going on with me. I would like help with it.” Or, “I don’t know if anything is happening. I don’t know if there’s anything I should be doing.” And then just come back and meditate. Listen. Trust!
So, for all of you, the process of connecting with guidance—with your own guides, with Aaron, with the Casa entities, with the earth. Q, I think you have some plants in your house and garden. How do you know when your plants need to be watered?
Q:The soil looks dry.
Barbara: Do you ask the plant, also? The soil looks dry, but some plants like drier soil, some like it wetter.” Are you or anybody in the habit of asking your plants, “Do you want water?” And just spending a few seconds with them getting an answer?
Q:That’s an idea you introduced to me a while ago. Most often what happens is I’m walking by the plants and they kind of tap me on the shoulder and say, “I’d like something to drink.”
Barbara: Okay, perfect! So, you’re hearing them. So, if you don’t ask them and they are pretty adamant, they’ll tell you.
Q, I want to go there (his Zoom background), I want that link! I know it’s warm enough—I want to go for a swim.
Q:This is called the Russian Alps, and I think Aaron made a reference to having had a lifetime in this region at one point.
Barbara: So beautiful. Others with questions or anything you’d like to share?
Q:I would like to share how I have learned the absolute importance of following the guidelines of the post-program behavior. One said, for 7 days, no vigorous activity and not a lot of exposure outside in the sun, and no lifting over 10 lbs. And I was very clear about that, I understood.
However, during 2 days, after intervention, we had big rain flooding problems. My landscape caused flooding for the neighbor in a way that needed to be addressed. So, I went outside, mostly working in the shade. Had to dig up quite a bit of dirt, if you can imagine big drywall buckets, probably about 5 of those, and haul them down on the hill to dump them and create a trench, as though you were creating a gutter along a street.
That took me about 3 hours. I came inside, felt weak, fell asleep in the late afternoon for 2 hours, woke up, felt weak, took my temperature—99.1. I was concerned that I may be coming down with Covid. Yesterday I woke up and my temperature was normal. I slept 9 hours Sunday night, and yesterday I was given a Covid test and it’s negative. But what I assume is that all of that condition with my body was the result of me exerting physically immediately after the program.
So I share this lesson with everyone: follow the rules!
Barbara: Thank you for sharing, Q. Yes, it’s essential to follow these guidelines. You also have, depending on what work they did with you, you could have internal stitches that could tear out by carrying that stuff, doing that work, creating, not only taking you back to square one but causing real damage. So, I’d like you after class tonight, when you’re ready for bed, to spend some time in meditation. Tell them that you now realize this, and if you did any damage, you’d appreciate their help to repair it. And try to be prepared for almost like a second intervention, that they may do some very deep work if they need to, to repair something.
Somebody tells the story of coming home, flying into I’m not sure where, but his house was about a mile from the train station. So, he took a train from the airport to his local neighborhood. There were no taxis at the station, so, taking his suitcase—he had just had surgery the day he had left the Casa; he figured it’s level ground and the suitcase rolls. I’ll be fine, I can drag my suitcase.
But he apparently tore stitches. I don’t know what part of his body they had repaired—hip, back or knee. At the Casa it was feeling much better, and then suddenly he was in immense pain. We had to arrange for him to have a long distance surgery to repair this. Treat this intervention, this surgery, as real.
Q, if you had just been at the hospital for this kind of surgery and then there was this flooding, would you knock on your neighbor’s door and say, “I’d really like to trench this so I’m not causing flooding for you, but I just had surgery. I can’t do it. Do you want to come out and help me do the heavy work? I’m afraid I’ll tear up stitches.”
Q:Yes, the neighbor did do half of the work. He did a yeoman’s job of the work and started it before me. That’s no excuse, I’m well aware. And I have already gone into meditation and apologized to Dom Inacio and the doctors and asked for any support that could be provided now at this time.
Barbara: Thank you. They have no ego so they don’t really need your apology, just probably tearing the hair out with frustration, saying, “We just fixed this and looked what he’s doing to himself!”
So once, okay. Now you’ve learned your lesson. I hope others will learn from Q’s experience.
Is there anybody who would like to share, just for a few minutes for the third or so of you that were not at the workshop, just in general about it, what you experienced? Q, I’m not pushing you to share, but you sent a beautiful paragraph or two expressing how it was for you, if you want to share that.
Q:Okay—yes, Barbara, I could. After the workshop I got to thinking what a wonderful number of lessons we had been learning during the week, and I realized how much the Dharma Path really set this in motion for me. The things we’ve been learning in the Dharma Path were kind of the start of the retreat, with the kayas, setting the intentions, vipassana, pure awareness, all of those pieces. And then the teachers would often describe how those could be used as even deeper tools to work with the ever-healed or the healing process we were going through. So each one of those things we’ve learned had kind of coached us to how they would be useful as we were going through. Tavis came in and talked about the chakras, he also talked about his divine light healing that he is doing. I’m getting tingles just starting to talk about it, because it all just started to kind of build on itself, all of those things.
Then John was doing his beautiful heart-centered morning meditations, and then also at the end of the day John would do his end of day, either Brahma Viharas, or the chanting that is such a beautiful start and finish to all the retreats that I have been on through the years with Deep Spring. And then mid-week we had the Mother come in and do the darshan with us, which most of you probably experienced. It was some Buddhist practices, some light practices, some chakra meditations, all the things we’ve been learning, but then all energetically, it kind of felt like the sangha was really building together and starting to really co-create this beautiful, beautiful energy, because we were together in a workshop, as opposed to maybe a silent retreat. So we did a lot more sharing as a big group—we didn’t break out into small groups, we just kept sharing as a big group—and I just felt like the energy was getting stronger and stronger.
So by the time of the intervention, it was like a symphony, like a bunch of people coming with instruments and starting to build on top of each other until it was just 40 people or more holding the energy, of course with the entities and all the Brothers and Sisters of Light and the Mother and Yeshua and Dom Inacio. It just felt so supportive the whole week.
But then the intervention, we really just felt, just held in that energy. It was just very, very beautiful. So, thank you.
Barbara: Thank you, Q. I’ve heard similar things from other people. For me, doing it this way is kind of new. Last year we did this at the Casa. We were in Brazil in January and February. We came home just as Covid was expanding. It was pretty awesome to me to have this group draw together from all over the world, and the way spirit—Aaron and other entities—pulled all the different things we’ve been doing, together. So, for all who were there, thank you very much for your deep-hearted participation.
Is there anybody else who would like to share or ask questions?
Q:I have two things. One is, I really wanted to write about my experience but I’m waiting until after the 7 days to do that, to see if I can. But more importantly, currently the Michigan Heart called me, and if they want to give me a Covid vaccination before the 40 days are up, is it okay for me to take it?
Barbara: It’s absolutely okay for you to take it, yes. If you have a chance for that vaccine, grab it. Those invitations to get the vaccine are rare and a blessing.
Q:On the day of the intervention Barbara started channeling Yeshua and Dom Inacio as an introduction to the intervention. And the minute the channeling started, my intervention started. I think that was at 11am. It was very strong. I just felt this energy going through my body, up and down, a lot of times focused on the heart. But I was planning on having my intervention at 2pm because I told a friend of mine who has brain cancer that I was having my intervention at 2pm. I told him that I was going to ask the entities to help him, and that he should be lying down at that time and be receptive.
So that was a very strong intervention, and all I could think was saying to the entities, “It’s 11am here my time, but my friend who has brain cancer is waiting for you 3 hours later—can you do that?” So I really spent a lot of mine time just picturing my friend and trying to communicate the time delay for that. So even though this was going on, the energy was coming in, the energy was really strong.
I was surprised how strong the intervention was. It was like I was at the Casa. I had to rest like I’d normally do at the Casa. I did talk to my friend and I asked him if he felt anything. He said he felt very restful at that time, and he felt drawn into sleep. So I’m really not sure what happened with him.
So, I think it’s 6 days now, and I went to work today. I could tell it would be better for me if I wasn’t really at work. I think it would be better if I was just really quiet and let this energy keep on working through me. But I just have some responsibilities, so I just went in to work.
It was a fantastic healing. And because of it, I missed the sharing later on because I was still pretty much gone. That’s my share.
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Barbara: Q, I urge you to listen to that, because it was profound for some people, what we shared. It helped people deepen in trust, not only in what was happening overall, but trusting their own experience as they heard about it from others.
The entities, of course, don’t use our linear time. So when you’re tuned into them, they’ll work with you, and they’re not going by the clock. As was shared that day, sometimes people come down to the Casa having been told to go to the surgery room, but before they even leave the pousada for the Casa, they feel that the intervention has started.
I’m in awe of the whole process. There were something like close to 50 of us spread out literally all over the world, all these pockets of light connected to spirit, and how this flowed.
Others who would like to share?
Q:I was not at the workshop but I was at the one in Brazil last year and had been to Brazil several times before. But I was too busy with the upcoming move to participate—sadly, because I know it was a phenomenal workshop. But my question has to do with, well let me just go back to the background. Some of you may know this, but my husband did participate and had some phenomenal intervention experiences. But then following the intervention he began developing really very uncomfortable GI symptoms, and he was kind of consulting with me as the experienced person with these entity interventions. My background was that I had been a couple times to Brazil where people were having pretty similar severe physical symptoms, with vomiting and nausea. So initially I was really kind of saying to him that, you know, it may well be that they’re continuing to work on you in some way. And he wasn’t getting a clear message one way or the other from the entities, nor was I.
Ultimately, we did consult, well actually fairly soon he wrote Barbara. And Barbara, you were wonderful, and Tavis too. But my question really is, and it did turn out that there was a fairly serious physical problem, which of course can always have something to do with cleansing of the sort the entities engineer. But at any rate, he did need medical attention. And I felt a bit guilty because he was suffering a lot, and I was kind of saying, you know, just go with it, they’re working on you. I just wonder if there are any guidelines that you can maybe offer, Barbara, or John, if he’s present tonight, about how to differentiate the physical symptoms that really are needing conventional medical attention, or not.
Barbara: Thank you for the question, Q. My take on this is that if you are somebody who is in good health and then suddenly, right after the intervention, you begin to vomit, you feel like you have a fever, you feel weak, this is probably the intervention. Give it a few days, if there’s no extreme situation. See what happens.
However, if you’re somebody who already has some health issues and suddenly there are severe problems, like one of you was having, like vomiting, vomiting blood, this is not something you want to play around with. Then you need to go to the ER or doctor.
It has been my experience that the intervention never causes this kind of thing. If there’s a severe issue, it’s not because you had the intervention and they bungled it somehow. More it’s that the intervention has exposed an underlying issue that needs deeper attention, that needs perhaps allopathic attention, and bringing it to your attention.
John, you may want to talk about this.
John: Hi everybody, this is John. Q was at the Casa one year along with a friend of hers when I had an episode of sorts. I talked a little about it this past week. I had an intervention and then I started to experience headaches and I started vomiting. I couldn’t sleep at night. I was getting about 2 hours of sleep a night. I thought it was just because of the intervention, and perhaps a follow-up with the entities continuing to work on me. But it lasted a long time, it lasted weeks. It was very, very uncomfortable. I was vomiting to the point where there was nothing more to vomit, so I was dry vomiting.
And then finally, it was at Q’s suggestion that I seek some medical attention. I wound up in the clinic in Abadiania a couple of times and then I went to the emergency room in Annapolis, which is the nearest big city. They did some tests on me and sent me to a cardiologist there, who gave me some medication for high blood pressure. I had never had medication for high blood pressure before. That helped some. It actually helped to get me back to the States eventually.
But also, what was going on was my kidneys were failing, and I didn’t know that. And I didn’t know that until a couple of months later, because there were various symptoms that were continuing to happen. I saw a cardiologist here in the United States, I saw my urologist, and nobody picked up on the fact that my kidney functioning was dwindling very, very low.
It’s sometimes hard to tell whether the symptoms that one is experiencing are a result of the intervention. And perhaps when it’s not, or when it’s combined with something else that’s going inside of myself—as I mentioned during the week, part of what was happening as part of the intervention was the release of an attached spirit that was a very negative entity that was attached to my family. It was passed down from grandfather to father to myself and to my sister. That the entities were helping to release that family attachment, that family negative entity, and that was part of what was contributing to the vomiting. I think especially like I was trying to get it out, you know, I was trying to release it. Because the doctors here said what was happening with the kidneys and the high blood pressure had nothing to do with the symptoms of the vomiting.
So sometimes it’s really hard to tell. This is one reason why it’s helpful to have somebody with some medical background and training, like Tavis, for example, on site to help to differentiate what might actually be going on. And I didn’t have that when I was at the Casa, unfortunately. So it was very, very challenging. It was by far the most difficult trip I’ve had there. I’ve been there 12 times, 13 times, and I never had any experience like this. But you know, that’s sometimes part of the journey.
So that’s kind of a long way of saying that it’s important to understand that some of what we might be experiencing is a result of the intervention and some of it might be other things that are going on as well internally.
Q:This is Q again. And I just want to say, John, that while you didn’t know it, you did have the benefit of Tavis’ guidance, because I had emailed Barbara and she emailed Tavis. And there was an amazing quick return of the input. Because I was fairly certain in your case that you did need to go to the hospital. But then got back the feedback from Tavis and Barbara very quickly, which was immensely helpful.
But the pousada owners, one of whom was a nurse, kept telling me, “No, it’s just the entities working.” So, I had a really hard time convincing them that there was something medical going on. And certainly Tavis’ and Barbara’s input was very instrumental in that.
I also probably don’t need to say this, but I need to say it in my own defense—that at the point where I was encouraging my husband just to go with it, I also was encouraging him to write Barbara. But he was not throwing up blood at that point, and he really wasn’t throwing up, so far as I knew, until the next morning, when we did end up going to the hospital.
But I’m really glad we’re addressing this, because it can be a very tricky walk to walk. Thank you.
John: It was a non-Casa day, and I went to (see) John of God. He was sitting outside his office. I went up to him and I said, “I’m really experiencing some very difficult symptoms—can I speak with you?” And he wouldn’t talk with me. The other man that was with him essentially said, “No speak English.” So I didn’t get any help from John of God at that point. And I was really feeling very alone with the situation.
In any case, it’s part of the healing journey—what can I say?
Barbara: I’ve learned to trust, when I’m in a situation that I don’t really understand what’s happening—and I’ve never been in that kind of situation with extreme vomiting or fever or anything down there—but I’ve learned to trust that the entities are there to support me, and just to ask for help. And to trust my own intuition. If I was in that situation, that I would need to ask to go to the hospital.
I’ve had similar things happen at home where Dom Inacio did some deep surgery on my back. Then I was in a lot of pain, feeling abdominal pain. I asked, “Is this part of the intervention?” because I know he had worked on my back. Spirit—not Aaron, but one of these Brothers of Light just said, “We’re taking care of you—relax.” I must have slept for most of 4 days, and it cleared up. Later I was told that part of the back pain was from the accident I had had, and damage to the back, and part of it was from negative entities, as John was talking about, releasing of negative energy. That the negativity in my gut was pressing against my back and I needed to release it. I wasn’t vomiting, I just felt like I wanted to vomit. But needing to clear this out.
Basically, I’ve learned if I say, “I need help. I don’t know what’s happening, I don’t know what to do,” I will get the information that I need. I may get it from a human like Tavis or I may get it from spirit, and then I have to trust myself.
I want to say about the Covid vaccine that the entity said at the workshop they will work around this vaccine. That it’s important that anybody receive the vaccine if it is offered. And not to worry, they’ll work around it.
For me at the Casa, without Medium Joao there these past two years, 2019-2020, I’ve felt like I’m there at the Casa with that amazing energy. Medium Joao was just a part of had been going on for me, but the Entities, the Brothers and Sisters of Light, are a core of it. I trust the whole experience.
For me this year, being at home here and offering this workshop, this was an amazing week for me, really. There was a sense of, “Who me? I can’t be doing any of this!” Aaron kept saying, “You’re not doing any of it, you’re just holding space for it to move through. You are the doorway. Just relax and go and sit quietly and be a doorway. Don’t think about doing anything, just hold space.” I could really feel myself being that; all this very high spirit energy, and all of this group, and just being a doorway connecting wherever there was need. I could almost see people as colors of light, getting into more orange/red light when there was need and then calming down slowly into a yellow, and then cooler color light. Just being a doorway.1(personal experience in footnote)
There are a couple of things about this. First, I repeat: I was just being a doorway. I wasn’t doing anything except holding this space open, which I was only able to do with the support of everybody else supporting the energy to do it. The more any Barbara ego was out of the way, any stories out of the way, the more I was able to just keep this portal open.
At first it seemed exhausting, sort of like what I sometimes experience with Remembering Wholeness. But I’ve learned how not to be exhausted with Remembering Wholeness.
Then I found I wasn’t exhausted. I could rest in all of your energy. I could feel you kind of holding me up. I can use it! This is an odd example, but somewhere up there, there was a radiant lightbulb that needed the old bulb taken out and the new bulb screwed in. I couldn’t reach it, but everybody made a pyramid and I climbed up to the top. And I could turn the lightbulb and get the new bulb to work. But obviously that took all of us, not just me; I’m simply the one at the top who was turning the bulb.
So, it was an amazing experience for me of co-creating with spirit, with all of us doing this work together. It was deeply humbling to me because for all of my life I’ve been asking, “How can I be of service?” And I see now this was a little bit of Barbara wanting to do something good. As soon as there’s Barbara wanting to be of service it interferes with it. But when “nobody” comes in and just holds open the door, something that I’ve been training to do for 30 years, then it can happen.
So I developed a great deal more trust in my – as Barbara – ability/skills of mediumship and in the presence of spirit, to come when requested and to support, always for the highest good. To just let it flow.
There were some times during the intervention when I was in a deep state of allowing spirit to be in incorporated and to work through me, but there were times when Barbara consciousness came back, and I was told, “Just relax. Look out the window.” I wasn’t fully back in the body but I was a little bit back in the body. “Look out the window. Don’t get Barbara-ego in the way. Just relax.”
Then when people shared what they were experiencing, I was truly moved and awed. So joyful that I was able to help facilitate this degree of healing for people, not by doing anything special, just by holding the door open so people could connect with spirit. Thank you all for trusting me with this.
John: Thank you, Barbara, you did a great job. I have not seen you do that before, to be able to do it online with people scattered all over the place and have it as effective and as powerful as it was. Thank you very much for that.
Barbara: I am honored to have had the opportunity to do it. I’m honored that spirit has entrusted me with learning these skills and with trusting me to holding me to hold their energy in this physical body and let it work through.
I’m a bit beyond words with this. For me, it was in some ways a life-changing experience, to learn to let go and trust myself and my capacity to do this. There were interesting things, like during the intervention I found my—consciousness? awareness? I don’t know which word to use—I found myself looking at the screen, being with each person. Really, it was like an out of body, astral projection experience, moving to each person. And I understood at some level—Barbara understood—that spirit was using me to astrally project to each person based on looking at your pictures on the screen, and to literally be there with you. And then to come back to Barbara, (who made a semi-conscious choice to move on to the next person) and then on to the next person. So this is what I was doing through that whole intervention period, often going back to the same person 2 or 3 times, as needed.
Then when spirit said we were done I spent several more hours sitting at my computer just looking at the list of people. Your pictures were no longer on there, but spirit would direct me to one person or another. It didn’t matter where in the world that person was, but projecting my energy out to that person, allowing spirit—like holding the door open, as I said—helping spirit to work through, to be with this person or that person.
It was interesting that I think there were so many entities and they were with everybody, but some special attention was being offered to this person or that person. And I’m not clear at this point what the difference was, versus holding the whole space and just having entities everywhere working with everyone. So, there’s still a lot of mystery to this, for me.
Thirty years ago I said, “Okay, I’ll be a human telephone.” So I guess this is what I’m being! Maybe now more a doorway too.
Is there anything else that people would like to share before Aaron comes in?
Q: I’ve been giving this whole experience a great deal of thought in the past few days. I’m very taken by what you just shared, Barbara, about the procedures that you were engaged with. I am hoping that this program will be able to be reproduced again and again, to be able to make these experiences available to people who are not able to go to Brazil. For people to experience this service in the context of their own home, I think is a very powerful thing. I just want to say thank you, Barbara, and John, and Tavis, for the deep, deep workings you have served us with over the past week.
Barbara: Your gratitude is received with joy, Q. Thank you.
Q: I’d like to make one observation before Aaron speaks, and that is, I’ve been doing some readings about life after life—The American Book of the Deadis one, and some other books as well. Some of the titles I’ve actually gotten from here, this class. And one of the things I think I’m noticing is a lot of the work that we’re doing in working with the darkness is actually work that we would have to do after we transition from this life. The reflection, if you will; the confronting our fears. So I’m very grateful to be able to do this work now rather than after I transition. So my thanks to all the teachers for this.
Barbara: Thank you, Q; I think that’s an accurate statement. But don’t be misled into a belief that there won’t be anything left to do after the transition! Transition can take us far along toward fuller liberation when we’re ready for it, Aaron is saying, ready to use that transition experience truly for liberation, rather than just inching along.
So this has led to some questioning for me. How to best use what seems to be a gift I’ve been given—not just as a dharma teacher, not just as channel for Aaron, but more fully to hold this kind of energy to help support people’s release of pain, of emotional/physical/spiritual/karmic pain.
I’m 78 years old, so I cannot expect to be doing too much after maybe another, let’s give it 15 years—early 90s. Where do I best put my energy? I know I have free will and the choice to decide to teach classes, to write books, to do private counseling, to do more workshops like this. Basically, my answer to this is to simply say, “I choose to support whatever is for the highest good, and I invite whatever may come my way that is for the highest good.” That, “Here I am, Lord. If you lead me, I will go.”
So, after a day or two of hashing over this question and seeing how much ego was involved in it, I just said okay, let go. I trust if I keep the statement, “Whatever best supports the highest good, I’m happy to do it—here I am,” I’ll be shown what I need to do.
Interesting where life leads us. I had a wonderful conversation yesterday with my college roommate. Sixty years ago we were roommates for two years. And for about 20 years thereafter—well, not even 20 years; for about 8 years thereafter we kept in close touch.
Then I lost my hearing. We wrote each other letters but it was laborious to write that kind of letter, and I could not use the phone. She lived in a different part of the country; we didn’t see each other. Occasionally—she lived in New York and I had moved to Michigan – when I came to New York, we would visit for a couple of hours. But gradually we lost touch. And as you all know, it’s only been really the past 15 years that I’ve had a really good phone—not the relay service, where I had to laboriously pass the speaker aspect back and forth, but a good phone. Janet and I have not really talked in years. Immediately when we met that first day at college we looked at each other, we clearly knew were soulmates. We really knew each other. The college had thrown us together in a room, but it was perfect. Then when I moved to New York after college, I shared an apartment with her for a year or so before she married.
So on zoom there was this immediate connection. She asked me what I’ve been doing with my life for the last 50 years, and I started to explain it to her. I talked for 15 or 20 minutes. She had gotten letters from me, Christmas cards, but not really talked. And all she did, she looked at me and said, “Yeah, that makes perfect sense.” (laughing) So, here I am. I guess this is what I came to do. I’m delighted she can see it!
Okay, is there anyone else who wants to share? And if not, Aaron is going to come in.
Q: I’ve been feeling a tender heart and a tender stomach, not being able to eat a whole lot. But one of the things that’s been happening to me which I thought would be important to share, is that I’ve been getting sore lips, almost like a breakout of blisters. I was puzzling over it, because I thought I haven’t done anything different. But I asked spirit what’s going on. And immediately they said I use a waterpik for cleaning my teeth, and in it I put about a tablespoon of Listerine in the water. And it’s got alcohol in it. I know Tavis said several times, “No alcohol,” including the little aromatherapy bottles. And I can’t remember if it’s for 7 days or 40 days that we shouldn’t be. I mean, how much alcohol is in one tablespoon of Listerine diluted in water? But I obviously cannot do alcohol. Anyway, I thought I should give everybody the heads-up: Don’t do alcohol at all.
Does anybody know the answer—is it 7 days? The Listerine I have does include alcohol in it; I looked at the bottle and it said alcohol in it. I spoke to Tavis, I emailed him, and he said yes, you’re correct, your thinking that it was the Listerine is correct.
Barbara: Do remember that different people will have different degrees of sensitivity. Ideally, avoid alcohol. But if you’re using something that’s medically prescribed, ask the entities to work around it. Don’t stop using some medication that’s been prescribed. Like if your dentist prescribed that, tell the entities, “My dentist needs me to use this. Can we make a workaround for it; that way you form some kind of shield?”
Q: Barbara, my thought was exactly that, with what Q had to do the work on his landscape. That I often find if I ask spirit’s help and explain why I need to do what I’m doing, much like if you communicate that to an unborn baby or a body part, that I find that spirit’s able to work with that. But if I separate and just do it on my own, so to speak, that’s when I seem to have difficulty.
Barbara: Thank you. Yes, exactly. We are co-creating with spirit. We have to ask.
Q: I remember specifically asking Tavis about both mouthwash and tinctures, and my memory is that he said that tinctures should be avoided but mouthwash was okay because you don’t drink it. Anyway, I imagine it depends on your own sensitivity to it.
Barbara: Let me add a small additional thought to that. That these blisters may be in some way part of your body’s way of releasing some toxins.
Q: I agree with that, because two days after the intervention I ended up with a weepy eye. My higher self told me it’s part of my discharging, and there’s just some physical ramifications from the intervention. I wanted to say that just in response to that. And that, you know, that little bit of alcohol didn’t make that big a difference.
But one of the things that I tried, my husband drinks wine at night, and I just tried to taste it. And it had such a, I don’t know if that’s just the entities encouraging me, but it just tasted so, like not good, to me. It’s like I wouldn’t even want it. I just found that kind of interesting.
One of the things that did come out of this for me, I will say this is very clear to me: a much, much more direct line to my higher self, the communication with my higher self. Lots of resting.
Q: I wanted to add to what Barbara said, that it could be the detoxing, because I was not present for it at the retreat, but I’m in a lot of health groups where we do detoxes using diet. Even in those, people have these symptoms of nausea, rashes coming, they come and then they go in a couple of days because the system is detoxing so fast. And if you are not using things like enema and other things, it starts coming out of the other parts of the body also. It could be just that symptom.
Q:(laughing, with others)Barbara, I’ve been laughing because I’ve been wanting to speak for a while(other speakers have apologized to her before adding to the current discussion). I had two things. One is a question, and then one a sharing from the workshop. The question was, since the entities don’t work with linear time…
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…before the healing week is over. So that’s my question. And then I have a share.
Barbara: I would suggest for your friend that you have your friend send a picture through Isabel for her to put the photo in the triangle at the Casa, and to ask for healing, or intervention, if it’s necessary, and be given a specific morning or afternoon when they will be working on her when she’s ready to be lying down in bed and receiving that intervention. Because she needs some kind of support. They don’t work on linear time but we all do, and we had all that energy together for support that day. But your friend won’t have that energy from a group.
Q: Great. And then my sharing was, Barbara and Q spoke about how during the week the group energy started to build. For me, I had a wonderful insight out of this. During my intervention, different members of the group, their energy would appear, sometimes in my darkest hour. I was working with a lot of fear, and their energy would come in. I had visits from members of our sangha all night, which was so beautiful. Later that day I was also meditating with some challenging emotions, and I looked up and I saw this ring of light; the best word is, all of our energies just co-mingled in this beautiful brilliant ring of light around me, holding me.
Q shared a beautiful song with us called “No Man is an Island.” Maybe we can send it out to you afterwards. She spoke beautifully about interbeing, that we’re learning to inter-be. I’m going to start crying… This has been so important for me, this notion of interbeing. And in the last four days you guys have continued to pop in and visit me.
I realized that, for example, I was working on an issue that I know somebody in our group shared about, working with shame. Suddenly I was working with shame and that person popped in. I could see how we’re doing this together. And I had this insight that we’re awakening together.
So I wanted to share that for Dharma Path, because for those of you who maybe weren’t there on the Zoom, youwerethere and you’re part of this circle of light. So thank you for your strength and courage, because you lifted me up and we’re lifting each other up. So, I wanted to share that.
Q: I just want to say, Q, I think you hit the ball on the head. We are awakening together. For 4th density, this is what it’s all about. Thank you so much for sharing what you just shared, and that you have various members of the sangha supporting you through your process together, together, together. That’s what Deep Spring is all about. Thank you so much.
Barbara: Thank you very much. I would like to add something to that.
This is part of what we’re all learning—to step outside our small physical body, ego, mundane consciousness bubble —and realize how totally we’re interconnecting. And right now, we’re interconnecting in this small group of 45-some people, or in the retreat group of 45-some people.
But as we work together, part of this transition to a higher consciousness is increased telepathy and interconnection and being able to expand out. What I described I was doing during the workshop, all of you were doing it. All of you were learning how to reach out, not just think of somebody but extend your energy and be with that person or group of people. And this is a very big part of our shift into a higher vibration, a higher density—learning and mastering these skills, which we’re not thinking consciously about mastering but we’re just picking them up because our energy vibration is higher and thus, we can do these things.
Aaron is saying, it’s like a schoolchild doesn’t really realize how much math they’re learning, as they learn how to add and subtract and multiply and divide, step by step, year by year, until suddenly they’re doing calculus and somebody says, “How did you learn how to do that?” “Well, I just kept growing into it.” We’re growing into this.
Okay…here is Aaron.
Aaron: My blessings and love to you. I am Aaron. It was wonderful to be with you all this past week—not all, but many. I hope that many of you who were not at the workshop will consider listening to some of the talks or reading the transcripts as they come through. Certainly, you were all in our hearts, whether you participated in the workshop or not. As Barbara said, we are a circle of beings, a sangha, together, interconnected.
Building on this interconnection, and one small step further into the path of sacred darkness, so let’s come together and try this meditation.
We have been walking. (You may want to close your eyes for this, to be in a more meditative space.) We have been told of a place far out in the countryside where beings who were very frightened of the world, and of themselves, went to live in dark caves, sometimes singly, sometimes in small groups. We have heard how when you walk the paths near those caves you will hear cries of anguish coming out. It breaks your heart, these poor lost souls who have felt such pain in their lives that they have had to separate themselves and go to live in a dark cave.
This group has made the decision to see how we can be of help to those in the caves. We must be deeply aware that far back in the darkness there are eyes that have not seen light for many, many years, and that we cannot walk into the cave with big torches. It would truly be excruciating to them. How do we bring light in?
With this in mind, each in this group has been given one candle. This is an interesting sight. You may imagine it. There’s a valley and a cliffside rising up, with caves pockmarking the whole wall, paths leading up here and there; some gentle, some steep; some lower, some higher; several hundred caves.
If you were to look inside you would see some are very small and some are immense. In the far back, many of them have small openings that connect this cave to that. But because people are living in darkness, they have not found any interconnection, but feel themselves to be alone. Often there are 10 or 20 people in a cave, all crying out, but each incapable of offering support to the other. A few people come out and gather water and hunt for food. So, they survive in their isolation and loneliness, merely survive.
We have prepared ourselves—that song:
Here I am, Lord.
I will go, Lord, if you’ll lead me.
I will hold your people in your heart.
We are gathered in a loving sangha; you have been given this candle and the means to light it at the right time. But it’s a very small candle.
As we approach, you can begin to hear the cries, the moans, the anguish, fear and pain pouring out of this mountainside. It’s uncomfortable, even terrifying. The group gathers at the base of the hill, all of you together, holding hands briefly, preparing for this next step.
I will go, Lord, if you’ll lead me. I will hold your people in my heart.
The cries are unnerving, so much pain pouring out of these holes in the hill. When you are ready, I ask you to go singly or in twos or threes, but not too big a group, to walk up to one of these cave openings and just pause in the opening. Call inside, “I have come with light and with love. I have not come to try to fix you, only to hold you in my heart. I bring a small candle to remind you of the light that is in the world, if you so choose to invite that light.”
Stand at the opening to your cave. The cries inside have stopped. Remind them, “I will not come in until invited. If you say, ‘Come,’ I will come, and I will stop when asked. Now I will light my candle,” and do so. Feel yourself lighting the candle and standing there. One candle. It cannot begin to touch the darkness of this vast cavern.
Some cries from within again. “I am here with my candle; may I come?” No one says “Come,” no one says, “Stop,” so reword it. “I am going to come now. I will stop if you say ‘Stop’.”
The candle doesn’t begin to touch the far walls of the cavern nor the terrified, anguished faces in the depths of the cavern. You begin to realize that while you are the candle-bearer, you are also the anguished person inside; you are both.
Proclaiming your intention: “I am beginning to walk into the cave with my candle.” Feel the immensity of darkness within the cave. Walk one step, five steps, twenty steps, until you hear a voice say, “Stop.” When it says, “Stop,” stop. Just stand there, or if you prefer, sit down on the cavern floor, holding your candle.
“Here there is a vast darkness and I bring light. I bring hope. I bring love.” Allow yourself to be the candle-bearer and also the one in anguish in the far darkness of the cavern who has not seen the light for decades, perhaps for centuries.
I’m going to be quiet now for about 5 minutes, maybe even longer, while you experience yourself holding your candle, entering the dark cave, feeling both the joy and the fear of the candle-bearer, the fear and hopefully the joy of the cave resident so lost in darkness. You are both. Bring this into your meditation in whatever way feels suitable.
You may hear a voice saying, “Come, come,” but the voice sounds anguished, terrified. Hearing, “Come, come,” or “Stop, stop,” just listen with your heart and do what feels suitable, never with force but always with offering and a loving heart. I’ll be quiet now for a bit…
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Feel yourself to be both the candle-bearer and the one so lost in darkness. How does it feel to bring the light? How does it feel to receive the light?
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Now it is time to move out of the cave. If you wish, if the one you have visited wishes, you are welcome to leave the candle or bring it out with you. If you leave it, you will have to walk back, backtrack through the dark cave to the entrance. Your eyes are adjusted enough to the dark that you can do that. So, make the choice to leave the candle or to bring it with you.
The one who has been in the dark cave is welcome to come out in the light, to walk with you into the light. It’s all free will.
Some of you may have only gone 5 feet into the cave. Others of you may have moved far into the dark recesses of a vast cavern. There is no right or wrong, here, just feeling what supports you holding the intention to be of service, trusting your own inner light to walk into the darkness. Feeling the ways that you have transformed that darkness through your own inner radiance.
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Stepping out, now, out into the bonfire that’s burning in front of the cave…
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Coming back into this circle. Thank you for this good work that you have done. I will release the body to Barbara.
Barbara: Thank you, Aaron… Okay, everybody, I see that it’s 8:53pm, so not much time to share, but there is a little time. Anybody have anything they would like to share?
Q: I will simply share that it was very apparent to me that the person in the cave and the person entering the cave with the light are two aspects of this self. It’s as though the personality/relative self has some parts of it that are in the cave, and the aware personality self and the awareness, higher self, is the one offering the light. That’s my experience.
Barbara: Thank you, Q. That’s one powerful way to experience it. I know there are other ways to experience it also so others, please share.
Q: I had this insight during the meditation that within the light is contained the dark and within the dark is contained the light, and that the differences are not as
And so I think for me, it was kind of the two merged into one. And I found that insightful and also comforting.
Barbara: Thank you…
Q: I instantly had the experience of taming farm cats. We always had feral cats, who had kittens. They were very, very afraid and it took infinite love and patience to let them develop trust. In the meditation I was in that experience and I was the kitten, frightened, cautious but curious and willing. I was the person, the little girl giving food and space. It was really a very familiar experience for me.
Barbara: Time for one more before we close—anyone else?
Q: I found that I could walk into the cave without a problem. The only way that I could understand how I was feeling and what they were feeling was, I had to sit down and find out what they were experiencing and their anguish. And that took me sitting down and feeling it with them, and offering compassion to them and to myself. But first I had to understand their point of view, for me to be able to be in that cave. Otherwise, I felt like I was offering something that maybe they didn’t want. So I had to understand what the anguish was and the fear was and transcend it, either for myself or for them.
Barbara: Thank you. Thank you, everyone. It’s 9 o’clock, so we’ll end here. We’ll get this meditation audio file sent out to you so you can practice with it, or just remembering it.
Is there anything called darkness, anything called light? In what ways do they work together? In what ways do they contain each other? What happens to me—when I call it darkness, I close up; when I call it light, I open up. But if darkness are non-dual, how do I fully enter into both? Just play with it a bit. In small groups next week, we’ll talk about it. Please practice with it and see where that takes you.
That’s all. My love to you all. I’ll say goodnight.
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FromI am the Doorby Paul Ferrini
The Doorway
I have told you that, no matter how many times you have refused to enter the sanctuary, you have only to knock, and the door will be opened to you. I have said to you “Ask and it shall be given you,” but you refuse to believe in me. You think that someone is counting your sins, your moments of indecision or recalcitrance, but it is not true. You are the only one counting.
I say to you brother, “stop counting, stop making excuses, stop pretending that the door is locked. I am here at the threshold. Reach out and take my hand and we will open the door and walk through together.”
I am the door to love without conditions. When you walk through, you too will be the door.
The story behind this quote. Twenty years ago, I was walking through the Ann Arbor Art Fair, and stopped to admire some beautiful photographs. The photographer, a man I didn’t know in this life but clearly knew from somewhere/ somewhen, walked up, looked deep in my eyes and said, “wait here; I have something I’m to give to you.” He returned in several minutes with a stunning 2×3 (or larger) photo of a young woman and a doorway, with the words,” I am the door to love without conditions. When you walk through, you too will be the door.” He told me it was for me, wrapped it and handed it to me. I never saw him again. It hung, framed, in the DSC office on Washtenaw Ave for many years, then got lost (moved on to a new doorway!) in the DSC move to Packard Rd. We all are that door!↩︎